Official Realistic Options for Next HC of UCONN
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Hurley not talking about UConn:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...k-potential-job-openings-ncaa-tournament-loss
I am really not a fan of this guy and I am keeping fingers crossed he is not the one who gets hired. URI very disappointing today vs. Duke. They are really weak on D.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...k-potential-job-openings-ncaa-tournament-loss
I am really not a fan of this guy and I am keeping fingers crossed he is not the one who gets hired. URI very disappointing today vs. Duke. They are really weak on D.
So, just to clarify, you’d prefer Rick Pitino who i actually like & think he’s a great coach. but, laughable during this period where, let’s just say where there’s smoke there’s fire. and if that works out for him it could be s year b4 that info is reported. then there’s the escort situation which i’ll digress on. and, ad the fact that Uconn is going thru their own investigation & clearly would get grilled nationally for taking on RP’s baggage. i’m guessing he’s not even in their thought process. also thought i read some of your negative comments towards him while he was denying the whole prostitute thing, i find that he’s a very interesting pick on your end. and, conversely, a HC who brought Wagner from the bowels of D1 to a winning program as well as a RI team that been in the top 25 this year & beat a talented OU team in the tourney. plus most of his players are back & they’d be a def too 25 preseason team. i can see why u don’t like him.
Pitino is a way better coach than Hurley will ever be. I said bring him in and interview him., do the due diligence on Pitino. It is pure ignorance not to look at him. Given the current status, Pitino can probably be hired cheaply, and that may be important in the short term. And what I criticized Pitino on were his public statements, not his basketball coaching skills. Don't confuse one with the other. Pitino is as good a game coach as anyone in the game.
Hurley bailed on his team at Seton Hall, and I don't think he is all that great of a coach. He isn't proven, doesn't have that great of a record and has become a media darling for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. I have watched Rhode Island play and I am not impressed with them. Also, it's one thing to win with these lower tier D-1 programs and quite another to recruit with the upper tier of D-1. He has never competed with Calipari and K and had to close the deal on a recruit considering those guys. He has not proven anything. He is no better nor more proven than Becker or Schmidt. The only thing he has on those guys is media darling status which means shit to me.
Hurley bailed on his team at Seton Hall, and I don't think he is all that great of a coach. He isn't proven, doesn't have that great of a record and has become a media darling for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. I have watched Rhode Island play and I am not impressed with them. Also, it's one thing to win with these lower tier D-1 programs and quite another to recruit with the upper tier of D-1. He has never competed with Calipari and K and had to close the deal on a recruit considering those guys. He has not proven anything. He is no better nor more proven than Becker or Schmidt. The only thing he has on those guys is media darling status which means shit to me.
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SMH. you are are walking contradiction, should i quote what you said early on about bringing in a coach who no one knows & thats how they get a name? u clearly seem to conveniently forget your prior quotes in other threads. Of course he’s s great coach. despite your thinking that you’re the only one on this board that knows that, it is an OBVIOUS assessment. i’m gonna digress here but KSTW i’ll buy u lunch/dinner next year at a husky game if they interview Pitino. no risk on your end. It’s a good thing we all bleed blue n here 
I haven't contradicted anything. I think you missed my point which is that the best coaches out there are not known because they are not media darlings like Hurley, which I do not even understand how that happened because he is NOT a great coach. The media has souped him up as this hot property and you have bought it, I have not. He is a young coach who has had some very modest success. He is NOT a better candidate than Becker or Schmidt, much less Pitino or Cooley. If Pitino isn't even given an interview I would consider it a sad state of affairs and indicative that the politics of appearances prevails over the desire to win.
I am not required to accept or endorse media-anointed candidates for the position of UConn Head basketball coach. This should be a search based on the merits. Hurley, at best, is just one of a number of candidates to consider but he is far from the best.
I am not required to accept or endorse media-anointed candidates for the position of UConn Head basketball coach. This should be a search based on the merits. Hurley, at best, is just one of a number of candidates to consider but he is far from the best.
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Appreciate your opinion....but please remember that’s what it is...opinion. you talk like it’s fact. i disagree & in my opinion Hurley is a very good coach, who i believe would thrive in a more visible program like UC. and let’s not forget if u want to throw out records, when you go into a downtrodden program it will take time to right the ship. so, IMHO i would take Hurley in a heartbeat. like Cooley as well. Let’s be honest, you’re a smart dude. all your rants on this is just you opining. i get it, i respect it, but don’t tell me i’ve bought into something. i’ve played ball, ive coaches (still do) ball and i’ve certainly watched some ball at every level. so, give me your opinion, be passionate about it. but don’t tell me what i know & don’t know from behind your desk or tv KSTW.
We will have to agree to disagree on Hurley. I hope I am wrong on him but I really, really do not believe he is the answer. And I also believe his candidacy is media-created and overhyped, for reasons I do not understand. I am not buying it. Anyone else is free to do what they want and free to have their own opinion (including Dave Benedict, and his is the only opinion that matters).
Wow ...that's an intelligent response !
.....I just told you Uconn would have lost about $8 million a year if they were dumb enough to stay with the Big East and that's all you got ? Again let me give you a little inside info, Nova and Xavier having a good season ( or five) wasn't gonna help KO become a better coach or pay for his $10 Mil buyout .....so try again....
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Hurley is the guy. Brash JC clone.....we need attitude and NE pride and this guy has it. Bring him in RIGHT NOW and lets move on.
saw on twitter, not a great source I know, that he was in Storrs looking at houses.....oldest most used rumor ever for a coach looking......but its out there.
saw on twitter, not a great source I know, that he was in Storrs looking at houses.....oldest most used rumor ever for a coach looking......but its out there.
Dominick if Hurley was looking for housing I seriously doubt he would look in Storrs or Mansfield. I would think Manchester would be a better venue for any millionaire. Maybe Glastonbury. If it were me, I would look in those two towns first. Unless the dude wants to slum it.
Geno lives in Manchester BTW
Geno lives in Manchester BTW
Wow ...that's an intelligent response !
I guess I'm missing the point you're making here. I think everyone knows the best solution for UConn was to join a Power 5 conference. Unfortunately, that choice wasn't UConn's to make. The two options they had were to either support football and go with the AAC, thereby gambling with the future success of the basketball program(s); or they could have moved to the New Big East and take their chances with football. Neither choice was great. As we know, UConn joined the AAC, the football program has languished, the men's basketball program is now irrelevant, and the thought of UConn getting invited to a P5 conference now looks like it was a delusional pipe dream. If UConn never gets invited to join a P5 (which is highly likely at this stage of the game), did UConn make the right choice staying with the AAC instead of moving to the NBE? I'm going to say no, because they gambled with the well-being of their marquee programs, and lost.
I totally agree USNA90. New Big East was the best option and it was not chosen. P5 isn’t happening. Nobody accepts the fact that the football program is viewed by P5 as sucking monkey balls and unworthy of P5. That’s the way it is. UConn should have protected the marquee program instead of having delusions of grandeur.
This bad decision was coupled with other bad decisions, to extend the Ollie contract and to have hired a prior AD (Manuel) who simply was using UConn as a stepping stone to get the Michigan job and made decisions that were not in UConn’s long term best interests.
This bad decision was coupled with other bad decisions, to extend the Ollie contract and to have hired a prior AD (Manuel) who simply was using UConn as a stepping stone to get the Michigan job and made decisions that were not in UConn’s long term best interests.
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I think this is totally false. He MAY come to Uconn and commute back to Kingston where both his sons are in High School. He and his family supposedly love living in RI but if he were to take Uconn job he could commute.
Blenner Kingston to Storrs is a 1 hour 21 minute ride. So Hurley would be on the road 3 hours every day. That is kind of tough. I do know someone who commuted from Hamden, CT to a job in Newport RI which is an insane 2 hour plus drive each way every day. So it's doable but yikes, I would not want to be doing it.
I agree neither choice was great but you must of missed years of discussions with KSTW & my post on the other page: : "In 2015-16, UConn received $10,523,469 from the AAC...Most Big East teams, without the benefit of big-time football, received between $2.3 million to close to $3 million from the league in 2015 "
So yes, I think you totally missing the point... And obviously Uconn wasn't doing the choosing regarding the P-5, they were chosen out of it (the BCS).... The discussion was about money ( or rather lack of ), which KSTW, has just had an epiphany about in regards to coaching hires while being in the AAC.... and McEnroe's "tongue in cheek" meaningless article...
The point was the Big East would be 4-5 times worst financially......and the BE isn't going anywhere ( if Uconn wanted a second look now that their AAC exit money is drying up ) Also when the Catholic schools left ( not Uconn, since they bought the name and paid millions in exit fees).... there were alot of moving CR parts and still could be..... which was always gonna be the case... plus another factor could be the new AAC TV contract that's coming up.
.... Secondly you just can't act like Uconn doesn't have a FB team that they spent approx $200 million to get going .....or like it's going away.... because it's not....So I don't think Uconn was gambling.... They were controlling what they can control which is your finances and teams the AD has to run.... ( hopefully part of that is not hiring coaches who turn into a duds....
)My point is nobody leaves approx $ 95 mil worth of exit fees on the table that they got to split with USF and Cincy ? .......... to run off to play hoops with a bunch of Catholic schools that don't have FB...Why because that would have made everything better ?....lead by Kevin Ollie ? ..( No thank you Dick Vitale, that's as much of a reach as trusting his coaching, LOL! )
Also did being in the AAC stop Uconn from winning a NC in 2014 ????..... So suddenly because KO sucks & got fired for ruining this team, running off players & coaches... as he mailed it in the last few years...... it's suddenly the AAC's fault.....SMH !....... CR comp is a completely different discussion....but this is all on Kevin and the big picture is Uconn needs money to pay for it's AD ( ie..bad hires).... and the BE would have only hurt that.
(ps. the AAC reportedly received around $21 million in bowl payouts this year, down from $27.9 million a few years ago....which is crap compared to the P-5...... but it's alot more than the BE got... which is nada......also the FB independents (Army, BYU and Massachusetts) share a collective pool of $928,503.
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I think the NBE option would have to involve scrapping football. UConn may make more in the AAC than the NBE due to bowl payouts, but they're also supporting a very expensive football program in a G5 league that generates zero fan interest, has no natural rivalries, and a high travel budget to boot. Sure, the state threw a lot of money into building a stadium and raising football to 1A status, but at this point they're just throwing good money after bad. Again, UConn gambled and lost, and the price was the men's basketball program. Keeping football is the right decision if UConn gets a P5 invite, but unsustainable if they don't, and an anchor around the neck if the program that brought the school to national prominence. How long can they sustain things the way they are? You can hope for a bigger contract the next time around, but networks like ESPN are hemorrhaging money now, and every extra dollar they give to a P5 league is one less for the AAC. With the money drying up, the P5 leagues won't be looking to add additional teams to share the pie. UConn needs to be realistic about the future, cut their losses, and save what is important.
If that's your thought.... then I don't know what to tell you. So now the story is KO would have done better, not worse in the BE and somehow saved what he's done to the program.... Well I guess we can agree to disagree...... on my belief that FB has zero to do with him getting fired and turning Gampel into a morgue.... Might as well tear it down and move back to the fieldhouse while we're at it.....Uconn's got to be realistic....
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Also just saw this .....maybe someone's got a better idea than all of us:
Who Should Replace Kevin Ollie? Nobody | CT News Junkie
Who Should Replace Kevin Ollie? Nobody | CT News Junkie
win & they will come...dwindling fan base solely because we’ve been god awful under PP & BD.
Here is another guy who is available on the open market, UMBC's Ryan Odom, another very good young coach and son of a coach who could fall into the "value hire" category which I am increasingly thinking will be necessary:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22812774/kevin-pelton-weekly-mailbag-next-victor-oladipo
Nobody, except a handful of members of the local media, seems willing to confront the cold, hard reality that there may not be enough money in the bank to pay a Hurley or whatever the most popular flavor turns out to be.
I get that everyone wants to drive the big shiny new car but sometimes the bank account says "no, you can't have it." And this may be where UConn is at right now.....................
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22812774/kevin-pelton-weekly-mailbag-next-victor-oladipo
Nobody, except a handful of members of the local media, seems willing to confront the cold, hard reality that there may not be enough money in the bank to pay a Hurley or whatever the most popular flavor turns out to be.
I get that everyone wants to drive the big shiny new car but sometimes the bank account says "no, you can't have it." And this may be where UConn is at right now.....................
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Very true, Shaggy....that's what the numbers say......Uconn FB averaged 97% capacity ( 38,664 ) at the Rent for 8 strait years, even with 2 losing seasons under Edsall because he had the capability to turn things around and win.....The Uconn fans were even patient with Pasqualoni averaging over 34,000 in his 3 years despite his 10-18 record. But you can't have another bad hire on top of that like Diaco.
That's the precautionary tale with hoops... they gotta get this right. It's all about coaching and winning. Another HOF, program changing coach ain't walking through the door anytime soon ( well maybe to watch
).... but they can't follow KO with another KO.....
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Report: UConn cannot afford to pay Hurley:
https://www.nhregister.com/sports/a...onn-could-be-all-about-the-money-12762882.php
https://www.nhregister.com/sports/a...onn-could-be-all-about-the-money-12762882.php
Not some new revaluation... this is exactly what I said in Feb. Even before they fired him:
" UConn may not have much money to throw around— particularly if it has to pay all or much of the roughly $11 million left on Kevin Ollie’s contract."
Dante,
I think the fair answer is nobody knows what the real story is. But various numbers have been cited which suggest Pitt has greater financial resources at its disposal. Also unknown is whether Hurley might take a “hometown discount” to stay in New England and coach at UConn. We will have to wait and see how it all plays out.
I think the fair answer is nobody knows what the real story is. But various numbers have been cited which suggest Pitt has greater financial resources at its disposal. Also unknown is whether Hurley might take a “hometown discount” to stay in New England and coach at UConn. We will have to wait and see how it all plays out.
Im definetly not trolling, if that's what you got out of my question, i apologize. I obviously know the difference but ive been to storrs twice both games were sold out. You guys recently won it all and the women's team is a machine so i figured they raked in the money to foot the bill for the football team. Again, if you thought i was trolling im not. My apologies.
In that case for your reading from TOS: Is Hurley Really The Answer?
and:
NCAA | Finances | USA TODAY Sports
and:
NCAA | Finances | USA TODAY Sports
My thinking is that $500,000 annually plus the UConn name will pry Odom away from UMBC. That’s a fraction of the cost of Hurley, is quite affordable, more than doubles Odom’s salary, and saves much needed money for the Ollie buyout. I think this guy can be pretty good, let’s give him a shot.
Jesus Christ this board is populated by idiots.
Is Glen Miller the snitch?
Glen Miller is still trying to get a coaching job, moron, why would he tank his career by talking to the ncaa unless he were approached?
Unreal, the noise on that lunatic forum.
KO really lost me when he fired Glen Miller. That was a real backstab/scapegoat move. I still do not understand how that firing was justified on any ground, but the notion that Miller leaked info to the NCAA as some kind of retaliation is ludicrous.
Here is an article from Zags that talks numbers. He says UConn is coming at Hurley with low $2 million range and Pitt's coming with $3 million.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/03/19/report-uconn-close-to-signing-dan-hurley-as-coach/
So if that is right that is some major hometown discount.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/03/19/report-uconn-close-to-signing-dan-hurley-as-coach/
So if that is right that is some major hometown discount.
If he's coming here and giving up a million per to do it I might need his jersey
Andersonfro the numbers I am reading from both Zags and other media reports suggest UConn and Pitt are in fact almost a $1 million apart in their annual salary that they can offer so that could translate to multi millions being left on the table if Hurley takes the UConn offer (unless the pro Hurley posters step to the plate and make up the difference). This would be the most major hometown discount ever seen in sports.
